It seems so, butSpringfieldmakes and sells a huge amount of M1A’s and for the number they sell the numbers with problems are small and the problems are mostly small like bad extractors. The last years batch of extractors SA has had made for them have definitely not been up to snuff, but that’s one part and a very minor part too. People replace it with another and the problem is fixed. It takes 2 minutes to replace it also and even usgi extractors for M14′s only last so long. If your truely interested in one than you should go to the best place on the net to learn about them and from the most knowlegdeable people with quite a few top notch armorers in the mix. The M14 Firingline forum. M14 FFSpringfieldcan make one hell of a rifle and you’ll find many many happy owners that would trust the rifle with their life no problem, me included. killswitch1982 8/1/2007 12:54:38 AM I love my Springy!
I was still able to torque them back down about a quarter turn after each shooting session. CLIFF NOTES: Mesa Tactical SCREWS ARE NOT HARD ENOUGH, AND ARE PRONE TO DEFORMING UNDER NORMAL USE. REPLACING SCREWS WITH GOOD QUALITY STAINLESS STEEL OR HARDENED CARBON-STEEL [ METRIC M4x10MM FLATHEAD SCREWS ] SHOULD FIX THIS PROBLEM FOREVER! <– (needs to be verified) To Mesa Tactical: If your reading this, im very interested in your responce to this. I know you guys make good quality stuff, and i know this wasn’t an intentional problem. Obviously the whole "screws are screws" mindset is not true, and i think this is a problem serious enough to warrent being addressed. Im not trying to bash your company at all! I would be very happy, as well as MANY people from that original thread, if you could at least admit this may be an issue. I dont know if this is one batch of screws, or the entire shipment, but if pretty much EVERYONE in that thread has had a problem with the screws backing out (and to the point of one guy’s side saddle flying off), then i think its a big problem. If cost is the issue…. I dont care if i have to spend 10 extra dollars for you guys to include HIGH GRADE STAINLESS STEEL THREADS THAT WONT SOFTEN OR LOOSEN OUT! Thats a GOOD thing to advertise! I really hope you guys make the right decision to fix this problem! or at least do some serious looking into it! As for the rest of you guys: I’ll post an update when i get the new screws, and unload some ammo, and see if they stay solid! F22_RaptoR 6/14/2008 4:27:44 AM Bump for my bed time, and for the morning/day crew. F22_RaptoR 6/15/2008 12:36:48 AM Mmmkay, last bump….. I guess nobody caes about this anymore cms81586 6/15/2008 6:10:10 PM I do. Thanks for the info. I was going to completely pass up the Mesa rail but if they get the screw situation straightened out i’ll consider them again. I’m one customer that they’ll never get if it’s not straightened out. I’m not spending this much money just to buy new screws. CMS Tango7 6/15/2008 11:03:43 PM Good info, but I’ll admit I’m surprised. I know lots of folks on Teh Intarweb the run Mesas, and you’re the first example of this I’ve heard of. Can’t help but wonder if you got a bad batch; they should make it right however. F22_RaptoR 6/15/2008 11:16:48 PM Originally Posted By Tango7: Good info, but I’ll admit I’m surprised. I know lots of folks on Teh Intarweb the run Mesas, and you’re the first example of this I’ve heard of. Can’t help but wonder if you got a bad batch; they should make it right however. Very well could be.
When I shoulder the gun the sights are right where I need them 
As far as fit around the trigger, it is tight, and a little hard to get the trigger group back in when cleaning the gun. I also swapped the original grip into the Mesa Stock. I liked the shape of it better, as the Mesa grip was boxed off at the rear. MDracer76, You were right; the drop on the Urbino M2 stock is virtually the same as Benelli AccessoriesOEM tactical stock which is almost 2" longer. If you throw the Benelli M2 Accessories with Urbino stock up to your shoulder with your eyes closed, you are looking directly thru the sights when you open your eyes.
The Trijicon was both smaller, and had a nicer dot, but was more expensive. Then I compared the Trijicon dot to the (much larger) aimpoint Micro. The Micro won with its beautiful adjustable dot. Its also more expensive than the Trijicon … DevL 9/5/2008 11:34:49 AM RDP does not work AT ALL in the dark… if its dark the unit is OFF. In contrast the Dr Optic which uses the same mount size and is the same size in general is always on even in the dark and still usable. Victor [Industry Partner] 9/5/2008 11:45:07 AM Originally Posted By DevL: RDP does not work AT ALL in the dark… if its dark the unit is OFF. In contrast the Dr Optic which uses the same mount size and is the same size in general is always on even in the dark and still usable. The new model LED’s are now (have been) working in very low light, NOT complete darkness. Hope this helps. GLOCKshooter 9/7/2008 4:55:49 AM What good is a red dot in total darkness? In total darkness you could not see your target, let alone identify it.
TacGirls Calendar 2012 – Calendars – MIL-SPEC MONKEY STORE
TacGirls Calendar 2012 – Calendars Chicks with Guns! … ATTENTION!: We will be out for shotshow this week so be advised orders wont go out and low customer service …
MAXPEDITION – Active Shooter Bag – Mag Front and PALS Front
MIL-SPEC MONKEY … Sunday, 09 August 2009 22:08 DIMS: Frontal compartment: 9″ x 8″ x 1.5″ velcro-lined, rain cover dual zips
MIL-SPEC MONKEY
AGILITE has been cooking up an interesting wounded extraction system, the IPC : Injured Personnel Carrier. A hands free way to comfortably carry an injured …
MIL-SPEC MONKEY STORE – MIL-SPEC MONKEY STORE
ATTENTION!: We will be out for shotshow this week so be advised orders wont go out and low customer service will be available until about Jan 23!
- Patches – MIL-SPEC MONKEY STORE
Monkey Made Morale Patches … ATTENTION!: We will be out for shotshow this week so be advised orders wont go out and low customer service will be available until …
- Tactical Gear – MIL-SPEC MONKEY STORE
ATTENTION!: We will be out for shotshow this week so be advised orders wont go out and low customer service will be available until about Jan 23!
basically the same as for the other one you were looking at. Thanks! Thats good work!!! Keep in mind that you will have to drill and tap holes to mount it to the LT100 as the hole already in it is in the middle for mounting in the carry handle. I guess you could use that hole but it would be either sticking out in the fron or back and you would only have 1 screw holding it on. Cyclic7/29/2009 11:03:58 PM Using the LT-100 allow him to put it in either of the two spots on the mount. I would push it forward like a cantilever mount. If he just wanted a small mount he could also go with the LT-105. But I think he’ll be better served be able to select position based on how he wants it. The single screw holds a bunch of stuff in that mount style. Its been used for mounting full sized scopes on AR15 carry handles for almost the better part of 20 years with zero failures, I’ll pretty sure he will be fine with a Trijicon Reflex mounted that way. socommatthews7/30/2009 12:26:29 PM Cyclic: Using the LT-100 allow him to put it in either of the two spots on the mount. I would push it forward like a cantilever mount. If he just wanted a small mount he could also go with the LT-105. But I think he’ll be better served be able to select position based on how he wants it. The single screw holds a bunch of stuff in that mount style. Its been used for mounting full sized scopes on AR15 carry handles for almost the better part of 20 years with zero failures, I’ll pretty sure he will be fine with a Trijicon Reflex mounted that way. I didn’t say he couldn’t or that one screw wouldn’t hold, I am just making sure he has all of the relevant information before making a decision based off of what a keyboard on the internet says.
Thank you for posting that. I learned a bunch from it too. Talyn
11/15/2008 12:40:25 PM Your M1A loaded is already a combat/home defense rifle. What is your definition of "combat" because that will drive what you want to do to it. Anoither question I would consider is do you want to spend alot of coin being "tacticool" or do you want to make some logical enhancements, and save the rest of the coin to buy ammo, extra mags & a decent optic or two. There are plenty of M14 Scope Mounts‘s being used in the sandbox w/o the tacticool EBR-type stock. Also, IMO stay away from the E2 stock since it was made for prone fire , is heavy & awkward. If it turns your crank fine but it was made for a specific application. Personally I see alot of those stocks for sale by folks on the EE. They are initially expensive & if you find out you don’t like it you lose $$ getting rid of it. You can buy two scope mounts that will enhance your optics capability without breaking the bank. #1 a decent HQ receiver scope mount for a conventional scope. #2 a Ultimak M8 scout mount handguard will allow you to mount a red dot sight up front w/o messing with the lines of the rifle. Also, I see guys putting way too much scope on their rifles. You live in a state with heavy vegetation & relatively short-ranges so I wouldn’t go with a high magnification optic unless you spend all your time at the range with 400 + yd ranges. Being able to hit a target at 800 yrds is dependent on your shooting skills not the power of the scope. You can hit a target at 800 yrd with mil-surplus ammo using your iron sights if you know you rifle, and you’ve spent some time practising. BTW walmart winchester white box is not "cheap" ammo. It’s very good quality fmj. If you want cheap go with the Russian stuff but it may not work very well. Good luck with your decisions. H2O_MAN
11/15/2008 12:49:07 PM It’s funny how the word "tacticool" is used to dismiss the real world benefits of modern M14 Scope Mounts stocks like those SAGE and TROY offer the average enthusiast right up to the real operator. You have many options, but don’t discount the benefits of applied modern technology. Lympago
11/15/2008 4:02:50 PM Originally Posted By H2O_MAN: It’s funny how the word "tacticool" is used to dismiss the real world benefits of modern M14 Scope Mounts stocks like those SAGE and TROY offer the average enthusiast right up to the real operator. You have many options, but don’t discount the benefits of applied modern technology. Agreed. People who do it are fools in my book that seem to overlook that there are people who do want to use these items they term "tacticool" for what they offer in usefulness and utility, whether it’s today or tomorrow. Talyn
11/16/2008 1:34:21 AM I use plenty of "applied modern technology" on my various platforms. I was once interested in the EBR-type stocks but determined my best route was to keep things simple but effective with good optics. Asside from the collapsible stock I see no additional benefit to the extra bulk & weight. I’ll take 1000 rds of decent ammo for the same cost of one of those stocks. The guy asked for opinions. If anyone is offended by mine I could care less. BTW in the pic above I see you can’t use your irons. The only fools are those that find out that they could have spent the extra $$ on ammo & a decent optic to improve their marksmanship skills. Like I said there are plenty of conventionally stocked M14 Scope Mounts‘s doing fine overseas. Talyn
11/16/2008 3:58:20 PM Considering the results of the election I think the best advice is to buy 1000 rds of ammo and several extra mags for the same price as an EBR. I’d even say put off an optic in the near term. Logic indicates that mags & ammo will be afffected by anti-gun decisions by the new incoming socialist administration than gun stocks will be. The EBR stock can wait if you choose to go that route H2O_MAN
11/16/2008 5:53:36 PM Originally Posted By Talyn: BTW in the pic above I see you can’t use your irons. The entire scope mount is a quick detach item making irons easy to get at. I agree that mags, ammo, reloading equipment and supplies are all MUST have items because the future does not look good. EBR stocks are really for those that have extra cash and/or already have everything else listed above and more.This is a comparison of my four fake "W" marked M14 Scope Mounts magazines versus the USGI M14 Scope Mounts magazine requirements. References USGI M14 Scope Mounts drawings dated 21 January 1986: 1) 7790197 Tube Assembly, Magazine 2) 7790183 Magazine Assembly 3) 7267019 Follower Assembly, Magazine 4) 7267078 Spring, Magazine 5) 77790182 Base, Magazine. Federal Specification QQ-W-470 Wire, Steel, Carbon, Spring, Music (ASTM A228) Scope: This specification covers one type of round, cold drawn, high carbon, steel wire with a bright smooth finish. Military Specification MIL-W-12332A Welding, Resistance, Spot, Seam, and Projection; For Fabricating Assemblies of Low-Carbon Steel dated 14 December 1964 Military Standard MIL-STD-171E Department of Defense Manufacturing Process Standard Finishing of Metal and Wood Surfaces dated 23 June 1989 USGI Magazine Parts Materials 1) Magazine Tube Assembly – Material not specified but by MIL-W-12332A cannot exceed 0.20 % Carbon content, i.e., this is a low carbon steel. Required to be heat treated to 71 to 76 Rockwell "A". 2) Magazine Follower Assembly – Same as the Magazine Tube Assembly but it must heat treated to "file hard." 3) Magazine Base (Floorplate) – ASTM A109 heat treated to 71 to 76 HRA 4) Magazine Spring – ASTM A228 0.0630 " + or – 0.0005 " diameter music spring wire per Federal Specification QQ-W-470. Spring is required to have eight left hand coils with a free length of 13.0 – 2.0 ". The drawing 7267078 has several dimension and load requirements for the spring.
Red Dot Sights Shooting Targets
I got mine from buds for 1400 flat, SS barrel, you are right about their recievers though, I had to send it back to springfield to get the arms 18 mount to align correctly, their customer service was pretty good, paid shipping both ways. Nice rifle though, I went with the syn, kinda wish i [...]
Sometimes too bright outdoors so lots of guys cover the light pipe with electrical tape. Same thing for the micro RMR sights-the dual illuminated version is the brightest that Trijicon makes and it’s too bright when outside for most. jncryer Mar 2011 USA AZ, USA Online Posts: 34 : 0-0-0 : 6/15/2011 8:18:46 T Originally By TheOtherDave: I’ve had Reflex 2′s and the RX30 that Trijicon is making now. I think the smaller Reflex’s work well but they aren’t nearly as bright as the RX30.
eotech 3x – AR-15 Stock “But the new Admin. is a Master in IDPA” “MASTER in IDPA…” “is like C Class in IPSC!” OIF_Vet08-09 Fear is the foundation of most governments. Bronze Contributor Team Nov 2009 USA AR, USA 1256 : 0-0-0 : 6/8/2011 2:08:51 Can you not use the rail that screws into the [...]
Harris Bipods – CM Krylancelo 10/6/2011 9:50:43 AM Clint-M: I’m really interested to hear if anyone has some sort of a more in-depth comparison of the two also. I’m pretty well set in the rifle department but I don’t own a complete LaRue Tactical so I’ve been waiting for one to become more appealing than [...]
aimpoint comp c3 – Vortex Optics
I have a GG&G Accucam on my currrent EOTech and it is much better than the factory mount (to me anyway). I posted in the LaRue Tactical section of the Industry board but no reply about whether or not they have plans to make a mount for them. the1000z 5/21/2009 2:56:47 AM ESTBy GackMan: I [...]
ar 15 scopes – (West Bridgewater, MA) – The matter of Atlantic Research Marketing Systems, Inc. v Austin Precision Products, Inc. d/b/a LaRue Tactical, United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Civil Action No. 1:09-cv-10034(DPW), was settled and dismissed with prejudice. LaRue Tactical has taken a fully paid up, royalty free license under [...]
aimpoint 3x – Didn’t handle it but it did look pretty good- Thought at first he had a FAMAS! “I pledge allegiance to the ideal left us by men wiser than I, having the forethought to gift their children with the power of being free.” User Info IM User Email User Reply Quote Report Pushrod_Paul [...]
Forest is absolutely correct in that you cannot judge parallax from putting the optic on a flat surface and moving your head around. The sight is designed so you can move your head around and as long as their is a clear view of the reticle, it will hit point of aim where the dot [...]
Failure to end drug use lands man in prison
The two other teens remain on probation in the case. Court documents in the case accused Rhea’s co-defendants of burglarizing the 46th Avenue home and stealing two Bushmaster
He’s not the only top shooter using one today so don’t think that the web isn’t up to doing the job. Just remember, there are several methods of using rifle slings . If you use even the most expensive rifle sling and don’t use it right, it’s not going to help you! A word on [...]
So my overall question is: What would I lose/gain by going with one rifle over the other?
Of course.. I also have a side question… I am torn between the 16″ and the 18″ – I would like a more compact rifle, but I wonder if it’s worth the loss in power for the 2″ shorter rifle. Has anyone had any experience/concerns with the 18″ vs the 16″?
I look forward to your feedback!
mettee (West Bridgewater, MA) – The matter of Atlantic Research Marketing Systems, Inc. v Austin Precision Products, Inc. d/b/a LaRue Tactical, United States District Court for the District of Massachusetts, Civil Action No. 1:09-cv-10034(DPW), was settled and dismissed with prejudice. LaRue Tactical has taken a fully paid up, royalty free license under U.S. Trademark Registration Nos. 3,466,163 and 3,478,909.